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“DAVID: A few scientists that I’ve spoken with told me that they don’t think that the HIV virus is responsible for causing AIDS. What do you think about this idea?
CANDACE: I can be a lot more definitive on this than I can on some of the other questions you asked me. These people are nuts. The evidence is clear, and it’s the most elegant scientific story. There was a movement against HIV research, and the main champion was Peter Duesberg. There was some personal animosities against the power and the money that the early AIDS researchers got, and there’s a lot of political aspects to this. But beyond a shadow of a doubt — and I’m speaking as somebody who studies data in the lab — there is just no doubt about the fact that HIV is the cause of AIDS. There’s just so much elegant science behind it. Just let me site one little tidbit that tells you how clean the whole thing is. There’s two primary receptors that the AIDS virus uses to enter and infect cells. One of them, which I mentioned earlier, is called CCR-5. It turns out that a small percentage Caucasian Europeans don’t have that receptor. They have a genetic mutation where the receptor should be, and it’s missing a major chunk of it in the middle. Now, those people who have that mutation, no matter what risky behavior they indulge in, they do not get HIV disease. Isn’t that interesting?
DAVID: Extremely. I didn’t know that.
CANDACE: Then, of course, you can show clearly in the test tube that you can artificially make cells that have this receptor and they will become readily infected with the viruses that use this receptor. And if the cells don’t have the receptor, then they don’t. That’s summarizing like hundreds and hundreds of papers that elegantly address this, so there’s no doubt that HIV causes AIDS. Duesberg may not like some of the HIV virologists, and their style and all, but it’s just so silly. And it’s sad, because they’ve created a movement that’s been very destructive. My understanding is that out in California some of these people are like Luddites. Some of the activists — not all of them, but some small percentage — have gotten this into their head, and have stormed research labs. They’ve gotten very angry and very crazy, and it’s complete rubbish. I have no doubt in my mind. I’m a 100 percent sure about this.” “Molecules of Mind and Body”, David Jay Brown’s interview with Candace B. Pert, quoted from “Conversations on the Edge of the Apocalypse” by David Jay Brown
CANDACE: I can be a lot more definitive on this than I can on some of the other questions you asked me. These people are nuts. The evidence is clear, and it’s the most elegant scientific story. There was a movement against HIV research, and the main champion was Peter Duesberg. There was some personal animosities against the power and the money that the early AIDS researchers got, and there’s a lot of political aspects to this. But beyond a shadow of a doubt — and I’m speaking as somebody who studies data in the lab — there is just no doubt about the fact that HIV is the cause of AIDS. There’s just so much elegant science behind it. Just let me site one little tidbit that tells you how clean the whole thing is. There’s two primary receptors that the AIDS virus uses to enter and infect cells. One of them, which I mentioned earlier, is called CCR-5. It turns out that a small percentage Caucasian Europeans don’t have that receptor. They have a genetic mutation where the receptor should be, and it’s missing a major chunk of it in the middle. Now, those people who have that mutation, no matter what risky behavior they indulge in, they do not get HIV disease. Isn’t that interesting?
DAVID: Extremely. I didn’t know that.
CANDACE: Then, of course, you can show clearly in the test tube that you can artificially make cells that have this receptor and they will become readily infected with the viruses that use this receptor. And if the cells don’t have the receptor, then they don’t. That’s summarizing like hundreds and hundreds of papers that elegantly address this, so there’s no doubt that HIV causes AIDS. Duesberg may not like some of the HIV virologists, and their style and all, but it’s just so silly. And it’s sad, because they’ve created a movement that’s been very destructive. My understanding is that out in California some of these people are like Luddites. Some of the activists — not all of them, but some small percentage — have gotten this into their head, and have stormed research labs. They’ve gotten very angry and very crazy, and it’s complete rubbish. I have no doubt in my mind. I’m a 100 percent sure about this.” “Molecules of Mind and Body”, David Jay Brown’s interview with Candace B. Pert, quoted from “Conversations on the Edge of the Apocalypse” by David Jay Brown
